Adapting to invisible zombies that hit you from the floor is the best part of their updates.
PC V2.0 Storms Brewing Dev Diary
- Thread starter Crater Creator
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Adam the Waster
Hunter
Ehhh I wouldn't mind light lighting storms and ember storms but nothing moreI wonder how people would feel about STALKER-esque anomalies in the wasteland biome?
HammerDano
Survivor
IT would be visually hilarious, but, it wouldn't be on theme... it's also potentially fun and breaks AI pathing.
Neat idea to think about for a different/new game though
Sapient6
Scavenger
Or a "Roadside Picnic" mod for 7 days.
EvilPolygons
Survivor
Insta-death would be bad, agreed. Damaging, but not outright lethal.
Electrical and thermal anomalies could help explain how we have charged and infernal zombies walking around, though.
Outlaw_187
Scavenger
Fun times for all
bdubyah
Hunter
Faatal, you have any updates on this? Is it possibly gonna be a 2.x thing, or 3.0 or later? Was just tinkering with the idea of different challenges in a group based on if storms are turned on or off, but then realized if a user started a game with them toggled one way and then ever changed that setting it would probably break the challenges I have set in the conditionals.
Riamus
Hunter
I don't use RWG maps, so my biomes are random. This change means I don't have to try to make the biomes touch in a non-random way just to get through the hazard stuff. That means that if I decide to do a second game with hazards enabled - I might because it seems like there are enough changes to it that I should give it a second chance - I'll just do the biomes in whatever order I happen to find them in and I'll leave them randomly placed instead of worrying about them being laid out in a specific way. But I'll still have to do the traders in a specific order. I don't know if I'll bother placing them in their official biomes or not. I like them being random, but we'll see. If they are in their official biomes, I'll still be somewhat tied to the biome order. But other than that, I'd just do them in any order. I never really followed the order and just did them however I found them, though I'd avoid the wasteland until I'm at least geared up a bit. The others aren't bad even in the early game.
Jugom
Scavenger
I've always done then in order, even before biome progression, so I'll just continue doing them in the same order. Even more so now that won't have the loot cap rushing me to the next one.
I didn't even realise you couldn't skip them until town hall. ^^'
Space4Ace
Survivor
You might want to use this format: @faatal (using "@" and starting to type the name of the user, then click on the name from the list)
Maybe you already know this, but that's the sure way @faatal will see your messages, even if it's a reply to one of his messages.
If you already knew, then sorry, but maybe someone who doesn't know will have learned something from this message anyway.
Dark Sun
Survivor
Being able to complete the biome challenges in any order will be a welcome one, if only for the following problem. When adjusting the biome size percentage sliders (even a little) with the circle or line preset, it often will generate the burnt biome out of order, leaving it inaccessible.
bdubyah
Hunter
Yeah, I know about it, but I don't bother tagging people as I figure he'll see it since it's kind of slowed down in here.
Besides, I guess you just did it for me...twice. Haha.
Riamus
Hunter
For reference, the biome order is based on the order of the percentages. You can adjust the sliders, but keep them in the same order of percentages and they should be in the same order on the generated map. At least that is what I've seen mentioned. I don't use RWG, so I haven't ever tested that.
Jost Amman
Hunter
Yes, that's correct.
4sheetzngeegles
Hunter
I have nothing bad to say about RWG, I have played with and adjusted it a lot through
the alphas. But the reason for me not using it is, each biome takes up too much space,
aesthetically having them smaller and conforming to the terrain, with 2 way blending
overlaps, breaks up the you are here vibe, and each biome gradually flows into the other,
making it feel like one contiguous world. At least for me.
Hopefully in the future they will re-explore, elevated biomes. I understand why Faatal had to
reduce it. Maybe with tech advancing, they can be included as an option. Visually being in the
mountainous region surrounded by snow, and looking down to the Forest blending to burnt to
desert then Wasteland and bodies of water, is quite a different feeling than just finding it over
there.
the alphas. But the reason for me not using it is, each biome takes up too much space,
aesthetically having them smaller and conforming to the terrain, with 2 way blending
overlaps, breaks up the you are here vibe, and each biome gradually flows into the other,
making it feel like one contiguous world. At least for me.
Hopefully in the future they will re-explore, elevated biomes. I understand why Faatal had to
reduce it. Maybe with tech advancing, they can be included as an option. Visually being in the
mountainous region surrounded by snow, and looking down to the Forest blending to burnt to
desert then Wasteland and bodies of water, is quite a different feeling than just finding it over
there.
vergilsparda
Scavenger
I know this is the 2.0 dev diary, but I do have a (highly specific) question about RWG and any plans to update or change it again, either before 3.0 releases or in preparation of 3.0
It feels like since 2.0 released, forest towns are too progressed for early game to be fun. I know it's partially my fault, as I play on tiny (4k) worlds (singleplayer, so no need for bigger maps tbh), but 4k worlds usually only produce one, maybe two towns/cities per biome. I'm finding that the forest towns that spawn, regardless of how many maps I make (and I have made many; I am extremely picky about the maps I generate), a forest town will only spawn with one, maybe two tier one POIs now. It used to be that they would spawn with at least enough to clear out the tier one quests for Rekt, or at least over the course of a couple of days of redoing the same POI over again. And there would be at least two or three wilderness POIs that were tier one.
But in 2.0, that doesn't happen; I am stuck doing buried supplies quests after doing the single tier one POI that spawns within the small town. And it's making the early game an extreme slog to get through, because I prefer questing inside of POIs rather than digging in the dirt (just my play style, I don't really use clay for much except crops, as I don't usually play with horde night on—just frequent and large wandering hordes).
My question regarding that is: are POI tiers going to be shuffled around any, so that many of the residential POIs that are tier two or three are lowered, since those seem to spawn the most frequently in forests, or any plans at all to change the way forest towns spawn to add more?
(I'm dying over here, I'm so sorry for asking a crap ton of times over like seven different methods of communication; hand-placing POIs isn't as fun, not only because I know that I'm placing, but also because half the time they are placed, even if they are rotated correctly, end up facing the wrong way after I go back in for a proper new game).
And as always, any new POIs to explore in any upcoming releases prior to 3.0, or are those done for the time being?
It feels like since 2.0 released, forest towns are too progressed for early game to be fun. I know it's partially my fault, as I play on tiny (4k) worlds (singleplayer, so no need for bigger maps tbh), but 4k worlds usually only produce one, maybe two towns/cities per biome. I'm finding that the forest towns that spawn, regardless of how many maps I make (and I have made many; I am extremely picky about the maps I generate), a forest town will only spawn with one, maybe two tier one POIs now. It used to be that they would spawn with at least enough to clear out the tier one quests for Rekt, or at least over the course of a couple of days of redoing the same POI over again. And there would be at least two or three wilderness POIs that were tier one.
But in 2.0, that doesn't happen; I am stuck doing buried supplies quests after doing the single tier one POI that spawns within the small town. And it's making the early game an extreme slog to get through, because I prefer questing inside of POIs rather than digging in the dirt (just my play style, I don't really use clay for much except crops, as I don't usually play with horde night on—just frequent and large wandering hordes).
My question regarding that is: are POI tiers going to be shuffled around any, so that many of the residential POIs that are tier two or three are lowered, since those seem to spawn the most frequently in forests, or any plans at all to change the way forest towns spawn to add more?
(I'm dying over here, I'm so sorry for asking a crap ton of times over like seven different methods of communication; hand-placing POIs isn't as fun, not only because I know that I'm placing, but also because half the time they are placed, even if they are rotated correctly, end up facing the wrong way after I go back in for a proper new game).
And as always, any new POIs to explore in any upcoming releases prior to 3.0, or are those done for the time being?
Jost Amman
Hunter
Legendary sounds like it's just an idea for now, and for what regards the new workstations probably @faatal can answer that.
Riamus
Hunter
They didn't give any dates or specify which version anything will happen. I think there's a decent chance of the chicken coop and bee hives being in 2.x, but I wouldn't hope too much for the "legendary" weapons before 3.0, though it's possible.
Syphon583
Survivor
I could be mistaken because I only watched to Town Hall once, but from memory, they talked about these items as "future" additions. I did not get the impression that they were slated for 2.x. The only things I'm expecting are the specific changes to the new 2.0 features (Biome Progression and Storms).