PC Alpha 21 Dev Diary

[WhiteLion]

Hello, I'm getting really disappointed that there is so little news and information for alpha 21!

and only stream suggestions for the Twich extension

I understand that it is a lot of work and that it also takes a long time, but to state the whole year as the date for the alpha 2023 is intense

and then there are the streams

and then the streamers so I can hope for December 23rd

otherwise you are doing a great job. but give us new information and material for the old friends

LG fan from Germany

did you wrote this lines in word and copied them over ?

 

[custom_hero]

Congratulations on the successful release of your game. This is a testament to your tireless work and talent. We look forward to hearing about your next project. Thank you for being with us all these years and providing us with unforgettable gaming experiences. We have experienced each of the 20 alphas with you
 

 

[BFT2020]

Throw in the fact that the progression / crafting system is getting a slight revamp which is player data, using a saved game from A20 to A21 feels like you are just asking for troubles.

 

[Strengthinside]

No. But they're working hard on adding Klingon support!  :heh:

@JamesKirk

Yeah no one likes those, I am disappointed

 

[Jabronie]

You do not like it, so you say.

Try it, try it, and you may.

Try it, and you may I say!

 

[darkangel_]

yeye all look very beautiful,but try to optimize this game,64gb ram,i9 13900k,rtx 3090 and this @%$# fps drops to 20 ,10,40,or less in buildings,or places with a lot of things,all graphics less to low and is unplayable,do a better work or let game die

 

[Rabbitslovecactus]

Congratulations on the successful release of your game. This is a testament to your tireless work and talent. We look forward to hearing about your next project. Thank you for being with us all these years and providing us with unforgettable gaming experiences. We have experienced each of the 20 alphas with you
 

Yes, Borat is nice, King in na chairrr. I make plow with wife in farm like mule, and go indoor and play 7 days to fly. IS number ONE!!!

 

[Fanatical_Meat]

yeye all look very beautiful,but try to optimize this game,64gb ram,i9 13900k,rtx 3090 and this @%$# fps drops to 20 ,10,40,or less in buildings,or places with a lot of things,all graphics less to low and is unplayable,do a better work or let game die

Wut?
if you are going to write a goodbye letter at least make it legible.

I hate gamer goodbye letters. Nobody cares that the game doesn’t run as you expected it to, nobody cares how much you played over the years.

 

[mstdv inc]

yeye all look very beautiful,but try to optimize this game,64gb ram,i9 13900k,rtx 3090 and this @%$# fps drops to 20 ,10,40,or less in buildings,or places with a lot of things,all graphics less to low and is unplayable,do a better work or let game die

Your indignation is understandable.But it doesn't make sense to do the maximum possible optimization for each alpha version.It's a waste of time.As soon as the game gets all the major changes, I think closer to gold, the game will get all possible optimizations.But you should not expect that the game will be able to use your computer completely.Optimization is usually carried out for average computers.And do not forget that this is a completely destructible voxel world.You won't get GTA 5 optimization.

btw when 4090 came out, 3090 turned into a pumpkin 
 A very expensive pumpkin.

 

[Aldranon]

From a "realism" gaming point of view:

-Lag spikes alert the player to a large group of zombies.

-Player immersion can be disrupted.

...

OK that's it!  Just a bit off-putting for some people but not enough to quit playing the game. 

 

[DuHast_Play]

даааа все выглядит очень красиво,но попробуй оптимизировать эту игру,64gb ram,i9 13900k,rtx 3090 и это @%$# fps падает до 20 ,10,40 или меньше в зданиях,или местах с кучей вещей,все графика менее низкая и неиграбельная, делайте лучше или дайте игре умереть

My friend, I play on a laptop that is not gaming at all (HP 255G8). settings are about average. 10-13 FPS on average. 20 only when I look at the sky. 7 or more on level 5 missions. and nothing. I don't whine. Of course, I want a good personal computer, but there is no way. Creating games is not as easy as many people think.

Если вы приобрели игру в Steam, вы можете оставаться на A20 столько, сколько захотите. ИЛИ вы можете сохранить текущий каталог игры в другом месте, и пока Steam работает в фоновом режиме, вы можете запустить эту игру вручную и играть как в A20, так и в A21. Я бы использовал разные учетные записи пользователей на одном и том же ПК для каждой версии, поскольку иногда существуют несовместимые настройки между версиями.

Это знание вскоре может стать пережитком прошлого. Мы знаем, что им пришлось подправлять детали механизма. Они только увеличили шансы на выпадение деталей или сделали больше? Кто знает?

Their Steam version. Thank you so much!) Let's discuss with a friend how to proceed with the release of the new alpha. Maybe we'll start from scratch. But in any case, I will rebuild the Base on the bridge in the new alpha) It turned out too fancy and cool to lose such beauty) and I spent too much time on it) more than 200 hours

 

[Naz]

Your indignation is understandable.But it doesn't make sense to do the maximum possible optimization for each alpha version.It's a waste of time.As soon as the game gets all the major changes, I think closer to gold, the game will get all possible optimizations.But you should not expect that the game will be able to use your computer completely.Optimization is usually carried out for average computers.And do not forget that this is a completely destructible voxel world.You won't get GTA 5 optimization.

btw when 4090 came out, 3090 turned into a pumpkin 
 A very expensive pumpkin.

A21 has that glass block optomisation which should help in the cities. There may be others too we'll have to wait and see, but they do optimize along the way. Maybe not 100% dedicated to that 1 task since like you said it would waste too much time optomising a feature that then gets cut or completely changed, but they have made consistent tweaks to improve performance over the alpha's. I think it's too close to a new alpha to evaluate performance atm since it could all change when a21 drops, I wouldn't expect massive gains but an improvement to the playability of cities is definitely possible imo. 

I also have a 13900k and 3090. I've also done significant benchmarking on this game and can say very certainly a 3090 is no pumpkin. You have to keep in mind the other Benchmarks you see online are usually the latest aaa games, older indie and alpha games are no where near as demanding on the gpu and are almost always cpu bound with a 3090 even at 4k in 7dtds case. The 13900k is one of the fastest cpus for gaming currently and it still gets cpu bound in most of the games I play and definitely for 7dtd, so you wouldn't get anywhere near the performance improvement seen in Benchmarks of games like cyberpunk 2077, I'd be willing to bet you probably wouldn't see any noticeable increase in performance going from a 3090 to a 4090 in 7dtd.

It's also nothing new and not exclusive to 1 specific gpu that when a new generation comes out the value to performance ratio of the previous generation dives off a cliff. If you buy new hardware it's generally an accepted reality that, 1 the Value of the hardware depreciates significantly over time and 2 the new hardware will only be the latest and greatest for a matter of months at most. 

GPUs also don't  just become paper weights when a new generation comes out, they still provide exactly the same performance they did on launch day. According to the steam hardware survey the gtx 1060 is still among the most popular gpus currently. That gpu is 3 generations old, released over 6 years ago. So most people are happy with their cards performance for many years. 

 

[DocRussel]

I typically get 60 fps from my 980ti in 7D2D.  Of course it drops when facing certain directions in the city, but most of the time it's 60.

 

[meganoth]

yeye all look very beautiful,but try to optimize this game,64gb ram,i9 13900k,rtx 3090 and this @%$# fps drops to 20 ,10,40,or less in buildings,or places with a lot of things,all graphics less to low and is unplayable,do a better work or let game die

At the moment I would suggest to turn off reflections and/or shadows completely, not only to low. In my case at least I don't experience big drops in cities, but if I turn on one of those even to low I get noticable drops. I play on a ryzen 5 2600x middle class cpu from 4 years ago and have always had smooth performance in cities, never going below 40 fps.

And you could turn off dynamic mesh, I consider this an experimental feature still in A20.

This should be different in A21 as Naz said, that specific performance problem in cities was fixed or at least diminished.

 

[Weazelsun]

Any new decorative blocks items for prefab makers? I hope we get some like ladders or stepladders. That way when I make a prefab with ceiling zombies, I can at least allude to how they got up there. 

 

[mstdv inc]

A21 has that glass block optomisation which should help in the cities. There may be others too we'll have to wait and see, but they do optimize along the way. Maybe not 100% dedicated to that 1 task since like you said it would waste too much time optomising a feature that then gets cut or completely changed, but they have made consistent tweaks to improve performance over the alpha's. I think it's too close to a new alpha to evaluate performance atm since it could all change when a21 drops, I wouldn't expect massive gains but an improvement to the playability of cities is definitely possible imo.

I also have a 13900k and 3090. I've also done significant benchmarking on this game and can say very certainly a 3090 is no pumpkin. You have to keep in mind the other Benchmarks you see online are usually the latest aaa games, older indie and alpha games are no where near as demanding on the gpu and are almost always cpu bound with a 3090 even at 4k in 7dtds case. The 13900k is one of the fastest cpus for gaming currently and it still gets cpu bound in most of the games I play and definitely for 7dtd, so you wouldn't get anywhere near the performance improvement seen in Benchmarks of games like cyberpunk 2077, I'd be willing to bet you probably wouldn't see any noticeable increase in performance going from a 3090 to a 4090 in 7dtd.

It's also nothing new and not exclusive to 1 specific gpu that when a new generation comes out the value to performance ratio of the previous generation dives off a cliff. If you buy new hardware it's generally an accepted reality that, 1 the Value of the hardware depreciates significantly over time and 2 the new hardware will only be the latest and greatest for a matter of months at most.

GPUs also don't just become paper weights when a new generation comes out, they still provide exactly the same performance they did on launch day. According to the steam hardware survey the gtx 1060 is still among the most popular gpus currently. That gpu is 3 generations old, released over 6 years ago. So most people are happy with their cards performance for many years.

It's very strange that someone didn't understand the joke about the pumpkin.This is a joke about the endless race of GPUs.As soon as a new flagship comes out, the previous one "turns into a pumpkin".

 

[Dimasic-Colbasic]

Я не думаю, что это когда-нибудь произойдет. У нас есть дрон в качестве "домашнего животного". Дрон следует за вами и помогает вам (и даже иногда мешает), как это сделали бы любые прирученные домашние животные.

Роланд, вероятно, сможет ответить на этот вопрос лучше, чем я; но, если мне не изменяет память, это больше не планируется.

thank you for responding. But I will still beg and ask the developers to be able to add a tame wolf or dog. It's just my dream to have my own pet wolf in this wonderful game. Maybe my pleas will be heard so I won't give up.

 

[meilodasreh]

From a "realism" gaming point of view:

-Lag spikes alert the player to a large group of zombies.

-Player immersion can be disrupted.

That's why I play using 8k/UHD resolution and ultra quality settings with my Intel Pentium PC.

Absolutely no way I can distinguish those telltale frame drops from the regular slideshow.

...yes, I know, I'm brilliant. Feel free to use the same trick for consistent/non-cheating immersive gameplay....sorry I mean g......a......m......e......p......l......a.......y......

 

[Dimasic-Colbasic]

Guys, I like your game that you gave us. 7 days to die is one of my most favorite games, but it really lacks four-legged friends. I really love dogs. I have two Rottweilers and one Czech breed dog at home. And in this game I just need a pet. I'm begging you guys, please add a pet system to the game, I'm willing to pay you for the work as much as you say. Please, I beg you, I would really like you to add the possibility of having a pet wolf or dog.

 

[SnowDog1942]

Guys, I like your game that you gave us. 7 days to die is one of my most favorite games, but it really lacks four-legged friends. I really love dogs. I have two Rottweilers and one Czech breed dog at home. And in this game I just need a pet. I'm begging you guys, please add a pet system to the game, I'm willing to pay you for the work as much as you say. Please, I beg you, I would really like you to add the possibility of having a pet wolf or dog.

There it is   --  You guys got your directive, now get to work.