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I have to agree sexual tyrannosaurus is sort of a crutch perk for melee it's almost mandatory to have if you want to stay in the fight with enough stamina maybe stamina use is now integrated with the perks?

An example being javelin master you get the usual bonuses however you could also get a -5% stamina cost perk rank or -7% etc.

 
GRITTY said:
if sexy rex is removed i don't think i'll bother playing a21
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that's a bit of a kneejerk reaction, no? even if it's well balanced you won't even give it a chance?

but anyway we could still be barking up the wrong tree entirely. I do like the idea of sexual tyrannosaurus being cut as a perk and distributed across all relevant other weapon perks. Because it always makes strength somewhat necessary imo

edit: but I don't really think that would be relevant under the heading Player HUD Changes

 
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meganoth said:
Sure, but would the players notice that it is some special block that costs him performance? Without FPS display they might only notice this at the next horde night when suddenly FPS starts to drop to unplayable levels. And then making the connection to having placed a lot fo those blocks in the week before? We here might have a good chance making the connection since we have heard of high polygon blocks being a problem. The typical player has almost no chance.

Is there an automatic way to count block polygons? If not, they need to make a list of all say >1000 blocks with their polygon count. And a performant routine evaluating a chunk that needs to be called every time a block is placed. Just saying this isn't work done in a day. But sure, possible and a win for everyone.

With the barrels I could imagine it isn't for their poly count but for there effectiveness as bombs. Or just an oversight. But I don't think they are containers, at the moment you would not be able to store gas in them
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I think this issue of having too many of a specific block is not a significant problem.  How many of the blocks that are high poly would be used in excess?  Most missing blocks/items are things people might place a few of and that is all.

Are there any specific high poly blocks you think would be used in excess?  Windows and walls are your main blocks and those aren't what we are taking about here.  Other things just aren't used in excess unless someone is doing something really unusual and I don't think the game needs to limit things because of the edge cases.

I don't think it would be necessary to count polygons when placing blocks.  Just take any specific blocks that may be troublesome and count the number of those.  Yes, this is a generalization rather than exact number, but I think that is fine for suffering like this.  It is also less confusing as a setting as you can just say to allow 50 high poly blocks within a chunk, for example.  You can even place an icon on those high poly blocks so it is clear which ones are affected by the setting.  And if a player tries to place a block that would be too many, the toast message can say that there are too many high poly blocks per game settings to make it clear to the player.

Are plain barrels different from barrels on fire in terms of bombs?  I've never tried to blow either up, so I don't know.  I would have thought they'd react the same, but maybe not.  In any case, the non-fire barrels do have inventory (you loot gas from them in the game).

 
Roland said:
That's correct. It simply conveys the information that stepping into the desert or snow or wasteland carries more threat and danger. It has nothing to do with warning player on dynamically whether there is sudden danger threatening them. Same with POIs. At a glance you will know whether a POI is T1 - T5 when you get close to it. It will not actively reveal danger as  you explore POIs.
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So now when I come across an outhouse in theiddle of the desert and see the T5 rating, I'll know there is a not-so-secret secret base!

 
Gronal said:
that's a bit of a kneejerk reaction, no? even if it's well balanced you won't even give it a chance?

but anyway we could still be barking up the wrong tree entirely. I do like the idea of sexual tyrannosaurus being cut as a perk and distributed across all relevant other weapon perks. Because it always makes strength somewhat necessary imo

edit: but I don't really think that would be relevant under the heading Player HUD Changes
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yeah

my hopes would be the devs would just tell us what they're doing instead of giving us riddles to solve.  just lay out what changes will or won't be.

 
Roland said:
My last puzzle got solved so quickly and even with me trying to distract you guys with Scooby Doo instead of a real Great Dane. I hope this one is tougher and bit more ambiguous.

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EDIT: Wait, I got it. Something to do with Sexual Tyranosaurus. Jason Mraz from Cutting Room Floor.. If I'm geussing right, Sexual Tyrannosaurus is being removed.

 
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Riamus said:
I think this issue of having too many of a specific block is not a significant problem.  How many of the blocks that are high poly would be used in excess?  Most missing blocks/items are things people might place a few of and that is all.

Are there any specific high poly blocks you think would be used in excess?  Windows and walls are your main blocks and those aren't what we are taking about here.  Other things just aren't used in excess unless someone is doing something really unusual and I don't think the game needs to limit things because of the edge cases.
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There are players who build fancy palaces, they would have to be asked. I don't, I build functional.

Riamus said:
I don't think it would be necessary to count polygons when placing blocks.  Just take any specific blocks that may be troublesome and count the number of those.  Yes, this is a generalization rather than exact number, but I think that is fine for suffering like this.  It is also less confusing as a setting as you can just say to allow 50 high poly blocks within a chunk, for example.  You can even place an icon on those high poly blocks so it is clear which ones are affected by the setting.  And if a player tries to place a block that would be too many, the toast message can say that there are too many high poly blocks per game settings to make it clear to the player.
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I was talking about what a developer has to do. Whether he assigns accurate "weights" or just puts them into classes he has to look at each. Though if there are very few blocks with high polygons and you already know them or know how to recognize them, then yes, that task would be done in an hour.

Riamus said:
Are plain barrels different from barrels on fire in terms of bombs?  I've never tried to blow either up, so I don't know.  I would have thought they'd react the same, but maybe not.  In any case, the non-fire barrels do have inventory (you loot gas from them in the game).
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Barrels on fire do not blow up.

I somehow thought you looted gas barrels without seeing an inventory, but probably I always hit R so fast that I don't see any inventory anymore and got the wrong idea.

 
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Laz Man said:
Although, I can understand the appeal of adventuring into the unknown, it can be frustrating exploring somewhere and getting completely wrecked.
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 Though people tend to forget retreating and running away is always an option if you bit off more than you can chew.

I did that when I went exploring the new mansion POI on day 2 to turn it into my base. 🤔

 
Roland said:
My last puzzle got solved so quickly and even with me trying to distract you guys with Scooby Doo instead of a real Great Dane. I hope this one is tougher and bit more ambiguous.

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This may be nonsense, but I'll try. Everyone has already realized that we are talking about the "sexy Tyrannosaurus" perk. And it has something to do with the album "From the Cutting Room Floor". And with a user interface. I very much doubt that the developers decided to "cut" this perk, I think they decided to "cut" it from the general stamina scale. Maybe there will be two scales now? One is responsible for endurance when running, the other is endurance when using tools, melee weapon, aiming? :)

 
meilodasreh said:
I am rather curious how that new feature will look, or better said what kind of useful information this really provides.

I mean what, would it be like

"this is 80% dangerous right now"

or

"when I go here, it switches from low danger to medium danger"

hmm...doesn't really seem very useful like that.
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how about a sign like this on the road side when entering a new biome....    these are a thing in Australia... lol

 
Roland said:
My last puzzle got solved so quickly and even with me trying to distract you guys with Scooby Doo instead of a real Great Dane. I hope this one is tougher and bit more ambiguous.

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As everyone else I sort of quickly figured out the sex + yule part. The next one down I thought of dictator + ship for first part (which for those who said tyrant for kim I am thinking is right answer) and am sorry if I offend anyone but I have no idea who the other two guys were.

 
Gamida said:
As everyone else I sort of quickly figured out the sex + yule part. The next one down I thought of dictator + ship for first part (which for those who said tyrant for kim I am thinking is right answer) and am sorry if I offend anyone but I have no idea who the other two guys were.
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I don't know who the long-haired fellow is, but the guy on the right is from Cutting Room Floor.

Sex Yule (sexual) Tyrant Shore (tyrannosaur)

 
meganoth said:
Barrels on fire do not blow up.

I somehow thought you looted gas barrels without seeing an inventory, but probably I always hit R so fast that I don't see any inventory anymore and got the wrong idea.
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Yeah, they have inventory.  I don't know how best to deal with them exploding, but I'm sure there is an option that would work.  That was just an example that I could think of off the top of my head.  I know I've seen other things that I really wanted available to be built, but I can't think of them right now.  None of them, AFAIK, were high poly.  Hopefully they will at least go through them and add any that aren't high poly before gold.

 
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