jorbascrumps
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You're thinking about this way too hard. Just have fun shooting the pretend zombies in the face with the pretend guns.
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You're thinking about this way too hard. Just have fun shooting the pretend zombies in the face with the pretend guns.
Matt115
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okay maybe i will this tell diffrent: maybe they can be "fun" but they looks terrible- if smg was looking like sten i woudn't complain and springfield as junk rifle.
Blunderbuss let you keep "true" ammo on birds wolves footplayers 7 day horde- i use 80% blunnderbuss and hammers-now i have 5 stack of 7,62 on 11 day to shoot zombies with AK47 in 14 day. blunderbuss ammo is cheap so it is worth to use
Ehh- okay. do you play in Days gone or state of decay? i was thinking it will be going in this way - if you want know what i mean look's how multi looks in cod WaW and WW2.
Okay- nza 1 and 2 looks like- mix of realstic setting mixed with occult - what if saving private rayan have zombies. Dead army looks like bad cheap C-movie
Diragor
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The Key thing would be the best way to prevent it. You could just let it drop from the last zombie in the POI so you're forced to clear it^^
Laz Man
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The old marksmanship rifle was redundant to the new HD sniper rifle plus it wasn't up to the current standard. Not surprised it was replaced.
Don't get me wrong, gun variety is a nice quality of life addition but not something I would expect right now.
Maybe it could be a nice DLC thing but who knows especially if that legendary gun stuff makes it in eventually.
Tons of gun mods out there now so won't be surprised if modders fill in that need for you.
BFT2020
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I think you need to choose your words better (I know you are from Poland, but still). The new junk / pipe weapons do not look terrible, but are great looking models made by a designer who clearly put a lot of work into them. Maybe you don't like the style of them or what weapons they were based off of, but there is no reason to say someone's work looks terrible. Saying that they are terrible (along with any of the new HD zombie models) comes across as attacking someone's artistic skills. Maybe after the game goes final, a modder will come up with different, replacement models you will like better.
Blake_
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It was really just the model that was replaced. The new model does mostly the same mid tier stuff as far as I know.
Laz Man
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Thankfully, not all final loot rooms are on rooftops so this issue is somewhat mitigated. Questing also resets POIs so this is a problem when exploring a POI without a quest there.
Given the voxel nature of the game, its a complicated issue. Hopefully a solution is determined that wont require alot of POI rework.
Roland
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In the original kickstarter there were goals that were slated as being fulfilled by DLC after the game was released. Some things got switched around and those goals were prioritized and finished long before the game went gold. My point is that Rick could very well be correct if they decide that some features could be released post gold in a DLC. It wouldn't be a DLC that cost anyone anything since it was part of the original kickstarter goals but it also wouldn't necessarily hold the game up from being finished. The main story/campaign would be a big possibility for a feature coming after gold.
Also, they are done with huge sweeping overhauls. Water needs to be fixed but I know they are going for simple and functional so that will be nowhere near as sweeping a change as the RWG and block selector overhauls were. Bandits need to be added but they already have many of the models done and the POIs that will house them as their bases worked out, and all of the player animations that are viewable in 3rd person that they have done are also for bandits so a lot of the heavy lifting is done.
It's still a long shot. They probably will overshoot the number of Alphas needed just as they overshoot the amount of time they think each alpha cycle should take. But Rick's statement isn't impossible.
Matt115
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I doesn't talk about quality because models looks great but this like change MP5 into MP40 it just doesn't fit in my opinion. Like - if you add AK47 in WW2 game it can't fit
I doesn't mean they are "@%$#y work" i mean- they not suit - honestly i don't evalute the quality but "if something suit or not" - if this junk guns was added into mad max- it would be great it suit there perfect. But in 7dtd not. Spider model could looks great in killing floor but not suit here. Yes they make a good job but this is like STG44 in 1939 - not suit. Honestly... moders can't make replacement - tools to create models can be rly expensive
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Matt115
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Okay small explanation: i don't criticizes they job. i criticizes change of setting because it's have rly diffrent vibe that previouse versions.
There is one thing what in my opinion most of you agree : corpses have only few variant's and that's hurt. So maybe 5 more variant of corpse props could fix this problem. i will explain why this so important for me : honestly this is quiet "unique" detail- walls can looks this same because this is normal - hole in wall looks rly cool and if you seen something similiar in next POi you will not have "deja vu" but- if you see in bear cave 10 this same body it's looks just bad. I don't say it must have 50 type of this prop but 5-10 could help a lot
There is one thing what in my opinion most of you agree : corpses have only few variant's and that's hurt. So maybe 5 more variant of corpse props could fix this problem. i will explain why this so important for me : honestly this is quiet "unique" detail- walls can looks this same because this is normal - hole in wall looks rly cool and if you seen something similiar in next POi you will not have "deja vu" but- if you see in bear cave 10 this same body it's looks just bad. I don't say it must have 50 type of this prop but 5-10 could help a lot
Blake_
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Fear not, they might change her face or her clothing, but her boobs will certainly be safe and sound, because that's what matters. For gameplay reasons.
crazywildfire
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Yeah, I was just sayin is that I don't think the next page will select the next column on the left. I feel it is probably on the all blocks and the left is a filter kinda thing. The picture is also on concrete from what it looks like. So maybe concrete only has 240 whatever items for it but wood has lots more and so on. Why I put the +/- because some materials probably don't make as many blocks as another. Point is I can see it both ways and in one of these streams soon we will see more info on it. Either way we getting loads more building options to play with
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dcsobral
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Hey, @Roland, settle this for us, will you? Is it more like 240 shapes or more like1200 shapes?Yeah, I was just sayin is that I don't think the next page will select the next column on the left. I feel it is probably on the all blocks and the left is a filter kinda thing. The picture is also on concrete from what it looks like. So maybe concrete only has 240 whatever items for it but wood has lots more and so on. Why I put the +/- because some materials probably don't make as many blocks as another. Point is I can see it both ways and in one of these streams soon we will see more info on it. Either way we getting loads more building options to play with
Roland
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It was more like 240 shapes about 8 months ago. Now it’s more like 1200 shapes.
One of the big changes this time around was that whenever the level designers needed a particular shape, instead of trying to repurpose an existing shape, they simply had the shape they wanted modeled and added so they could do exactly what they wanted.
They wanted a lot.
One of the big changes this time around was that whenever the level designers needed a particular shape, instead of trying to repurpose an existing shape, they simply had the shape they wanted modeled and added so they could do exactly what they wanted.
They wanted a lot.
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Adam the Waster
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1: I think its funny but I HAVE NO CLUE WHY but in my head i think the drone should have at least 2 more propellers. its a box with 2 fans taped to the side, Still like it
2: i mean the Pipe shotgun looks like you just took a pipe and added some stuff and boom gun, the SMG kinda looks like the grease gun (whitch was/is basically a Hobos MP40 that shoot 45.acp and it was made with cheep metal and parts) AKA something i would see in
3: agree with that, but sense the game looks like YEARS went by, i would just skeletons
4: I LOVE THE NEW SPIDER ZOMBIE, but i do hope they give it more specials ability's
5: yes i do agree with that, I like the old weight better looks like something that would eat your heart out now he looks like me on a Friday night
(i would make it so there was No skin, add sharper teeth, red eyes, Clawed hands, Torn pants)
a rough idea but thats how i would make it. 
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Matt115
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1. this sound like futurama for me XD
2. about pipe shotgun- honestly it could be done like shotgun pistol from metro. If it was grease gun i woudn't complain but now it looks like - what if Warhammer 40k get Orks teleports into post nuclear earth ( no orcs - orks honestly they write similiar to me WARRRRGHTTTTT!!!!!!) .
3. honestly about spider zombies : their face looks to much like alien and strange big toes. Well at least better barefoot that 1 shoe. Honestly this looks for me like :
-hey Stue we bought rights to Ben 10
-WHAT THE HELL WE ARE MAKING HORRORS NOT GAMES FOR KIDS.
-Yep so we are making Ben 10 but as WW1 horror with aliens
- Well i have idea how it could looks like.
5. Yeah... new wright doesn't look's scary. Less skin maybe claws similar to l4d2 witch blood and will be okay
But rest of the zombies looks great : radioactive , doctor ( but i hate that she have one shoe !) zombie dog or screamer. Btw anyone know if they want to add new corpses props?
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Roland
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No. Each page does not switch a single column. Each page is a brand new page of shapes and page 2 is completely full as is page 3, 4, 5 ,6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.
It is page 13 that isn't full.
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