7days crashing quite often. Please help.

tenchikun said:
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/i4OYkeOxAUetlLmVmiAW0nt
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Nice, that's helpful.

As far as AV being a problem, excluding the game and save folders from scanning will eliminate that as a possible issue. It's the same process as we did

when you excluded the folder from Kaspersky. Sorry if you've already done that, just pointing it out.

I don't know if you're comfortable doing this but your bios should be updated. You are on version 1008 and the latest stable is 2006 from 4/8/2021.

Your ROG or Asus software should offer you the update, but if not the update is available here.

Another possiblility is that your nvme drive is overheating. It's rare, but it happens and is something you could check with hwmonitor while gameing.

I notice that in windows update MS is trying to push an nvidia driver. I would not install that, and just use nvidia's latest driver.

And disable wifi. You want to make sure that you're using your ethernet connection for gaming.

 
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Your RAM is not configured properly. That alone is going to cripple your system's performance.

I'll look into more of the report once I've had breakfast and some coffee.

 
wicketness said:
Here is a thought.
 

maybe try not messing with windows so much on installs.

even on 10 year old hardware i can run 7 days to die just fine.

install windows. update. install games. and play.

it is possible you are causing your own issue with all the tweaking and turning off built in features of windows.

Another thing to check is your cooling. you may be overheating during game play. 7 days to die turns my computer into a space heater.

I suggest monitoring your temps during a horde or while in a city.

I actually open my side panel when i play 7 days to die lol.

My new system runs 7dtd at max settings pretty easy.

https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V10/display.php?id=124749031643
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I'm not messing with much of anything. Not exactly sure what you're talking about there but as for cooling, i'm fine there. I don't go ever see my temps go above 70 degrees.

 
SylenThunder said:
Your RAM is not configured properly. That alone is going to cripple your system's performance.

I'll look into more of the report once I've had breakfast and some coffee.
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🤔 says getting breakfast and some coffee, but lives close by as I am cleaning up dishes from dinner......proof that ST lives in a different dimension

 
BFT2020 said:
🤔 says getting breakfast and some coffee, but lives close by as I am cleaning up dishes from dinner......proof that ST lives in a different dimension
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I work nights, so I'm basically on Australia hours.

tenchikun said:
Looking forward to that. I'm curious what isn't configured properly
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Your RAM timing should be 15-15-15-35 for your 2400MHz RAM. However because it was never actually set in BIOS, it's running on Motherboard manufacturer default "safe" timings. As a result, it is sitting at 2166MHz and pulling down the performance of your CPU. 

This misrepresentation is also known to cause issues that will appear very similar to RAM sticks going bad.

Also note that since you aren't using a 3rd party AV solution, Defender is enabled. You must exclude the client from that. It's almost worse than Norton for killing games. Almost.

Your system BIOS is obsolete. It's like it's the default version from the original board printing.  Get the latest here, or use Armoury Crate to update. You have version 1004, and should be on 2006. While you're at it, ensure that you have the latest drivers in Armoury Crate as well. The last Windows update replaced core chipset and LAN/Wifi drivers with extremely obsolete versions.

Your GPU driver is outdated as well. Get the latest version from here. Choose to go without GeForce Experience, and choose Custom Install so you can tick the box to perform a clean installation.

Other than that, I don't see anything that really stands out.  Your most crippling problems are the BIOS that expired two years ago, and the incorrect RAM configuration.

 
i'll check that out in my bios. GPU Driver is rolled back for a reason. The newest driver has some problems with some other games and rolling back the driver fixes that issue. 

Newest GPU driver doesn't always mean its better. 

 
The game is already excluded from windows defender and defender is off. I just checked it. I shouldn't need to flash my bios. You only ever do that if there is an update for unsupported hardware or known issues. Everything on the Mobo works fine, therefore I shouldn't need to update the bios. 

I did fix the timing issue on the ram. Good call on that, I hadn't noticed that. Thanks. Going to reinstall the chipset drivers and lan/wifi. Didn't realize windows overwrote them... again! 

 
tenchikun said:
Everything on the Mobo works fine, therefore I shouldn't need to update the bios. 
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Just to note...  20 years ago, this was the case. In current times, not so much. Critical security and performance issues are put into BIOS patches, and they are updated now almost as commonly as regular drivers as a result. 

Here's a list of some of the changes that have occurred since the build you're using.

  • Improved system performance and stability
  • Improved DRAM compatibility
  • Update AMD AM4 AGESA
  • Support Smart Access Memory for Ryzen 3000 Series Processors
  • Fix the L3 cache performance in AIDA64
  • Fix USB connectivity issue
So basically by not updating, you are missing several versions of patches to code on the motherboard that affect performance, stability, and efficiency.

And it's not like it's even a risky measure anymore with being able to update it in Windows via software provided from the manufacturer, and even via using a built-in tool in the BIOS that will go as far as locating the latest build, downloading it, and installing it for you. Not to mention having the BIOS Flashback feature that will allow you to quite easily recover if anything does manage to go pear shaped.

 
I have the same motherboard as you minus the wifi as I hate wifi. Anyway, yes, you definitely need to update your bios for many reasons including known USB connectivity issues, ram support issues, and a few others I forgot about. It'll help make your computer more stable overall. And like SylenThunder mentioned, stick with the stable versions, I never trust the BETA versions either. I agree that setting your ram to the proper frequency a good idea as Sylen explained, you can probably get away with leaving the timings alone as they'll auto adjust as necessary... they're not performance ram anyway, so it's not like the timings need fine tuning. As far as Windows Defender... it re-enables itself every single time you restart the computer whenever Windows doesn't detect another AV running in the background. I've done everything I could to force that garbage to permanently stop loading on my computers but no success so far. Though, I will say, I personally haven't had any issues with it and this game yet. As far as GPU drivers go, personally, as long as the drivers aren't over a year old, you're fine with the exception of latest gen GPUs which need the latest drivers as they roll out because they're usually a mess when they first release.

 
Well i'm not sure what you guys are talking about with the bios. I just checked asus's website and I already have the newest bios with the exception of the beta. Even armoury crate shows no updates for the bios.

 
The link you provided actually does show other versions. For some reason when I looked before it only showed the beta version and didn't have the show other versions. But with your link it actually shows all the others versions expanded. I'll check to see what version I have and respond back. 

 
Ok upgraded the bios, on the 2006 version now. Ran passmark, everything looks good except with the video card, it failed to run open CL. Which must be a driver issue cause this still doesn't work with the newest driver. Because of it photoshop crashes when gpu acceleration option in PS is turned on. I'll test out 7days some more and see if the crashes continue. The bios seemed like the last resort here as everything else checks out. Even after fixing the ram setting the game still crashed consistently.  

 
well, its still crashing. not sure what to do next. at this point i'm pretty sure its just a gpu driver issue and i'll just have to wait for it to get fixed. And before everyone starts blabbing on about how they aren't having any problems with that same card/driver imagine for a moment that others with the exact same hardware may encounter issues that others don't. For instance a few have pushed me to update my bios. One of the main issues with one of the previous bios versions was usb disconnections. Welp, i've never had that problem so just because you have hardware "A" and software "B" doesn't mean you're going to all encounter glitch "C". 

 

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consider this WITHOUT getting upset...







when a minority has an issue that the majority doesnt... it becomes the task of some guys/gals here to ask for as much info as we can get in order to cross off the evidences of the puzzle that needs to be solved... unfortunate... sometimes it ends up being something simple in the long run that one of us may have had some experiences with. or it can be something serious... thats why everyone gives input.







so when those statements are made, you need to chill and let these guys do what they need to do and thats to put the pieces together... if your problem was indeed as easy to fix as you were hoping then welcome to alpha because crap happens and we want to find the cause(s) and get them reported to fix them for future victims.





now that you have calmed down and think i am an idiot... let these fine people get started and dont get offended.





good luck





 





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I've never once said anything about anyone being an idiot, never gotten offended. I'm grateful for all the help i've gotten so far so I'm a bit confused with your comments. I've done everything everyone has asked at still no results yet. Not sure what else I can do unless someone has any other ideas as to what could be causing this. If you haven't read through the comments let me just say that I've done a fresh install of windows, updated the drivers and rolled them back because of a known issue with the newest driver and Outriders. Neither driver seems to change the circumstances with 7days. I've tested the ram, i've run passmark and ran every test they have. I have upgraded the bios to the newest version, upgraded chipset and lan/wifi drivers, excluded 7days and EAC from windows defender. Ive checked for over heating and everything is well within normal temps. windows 10 is up to date with the newest version, newest update for .netframework, direct x and everything else I could think up updating. If there is anything more I can do or info I can provide I will. Just haven't heard anything else back as of yet. 

 
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