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Thanks for the advice, I bought a Gillette to shave away my toxic masculinity.
Sad... i look like a cave man!

And im going to say that way! :)

 

Plus the [SIZE=15.68px]lady's[/SIZE] Love Beards! 

Can we please keep discussions civil? This is a bully move and toxic masculinity at its most shameful. Honestly, this is ridiculous behavior and I am more than a little concerned that this sort of thing is not moderated. More often than not, this forum feels like a bunch of poop stirrers doing their best to derail any discussion that doesn't align with their own goals. 
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Sometimes, single mods and modlets actually improve on the balance of the game. So if the devs want feedback on balance, bringing up a mod that improves that balance is valid and should not be dismissed just because some mod author thought of it as well. This entire reply from you doesn't make much sense to me. Don't ask for my feedback unless you can take it on board without bias. Yeah sure, the devs have a roadmap already, but the mere fact that they have this forum for us to provide feedback proves that the devs know they aren't perfect. No body is. To suggest that any feedback is invalid is basically saying they don't want to hear it. If that's the case then why bother having this forum thread here? No, I think it more likely that MM got annoyed once or twice and the rest of you took that as a new rule that mods are taboo. Hopefully, (and i think its likely that) MM isn't so unreasonable that he can't see when a mod provides balance to the vanilla game and that it would be beneficial for him and his team to include it in the base game. It's not about mods vs vanilla - its about how many minds are better than a few. 
It is easier if you tell them what is wrong with the balance of the base game instead of listing a mod that improves that part. Because otherwise they would need to download the mod and analyze it. Why should they? Just tell them whats wrong in the vanilla game. Then they decide if and what to change. That may be a different change than the mod does because they have different goals for the vanilla game than the mod author and you.

The mods-are-off-topic rule is from Madmole himself.

IDK what I'm doing wrong then. If I can be bothered I will post a video comparing shotgun speed run and sneaky silenced handgun run through the same POI. I have never recorded before and it sounds like a big task. I likely wont do it, because the sad fact is, I don't feel heard by the devs on this one. They have made up their minds and even if i prove its not really viable, they still wont take it on board. Again, why even bother having this forum...


You are already telling yourself "If I prove it, they still won't change their minds". Are you clairvoyant or trying to find a way to blame them for your inability to convince them of your opinion. Now I think TFP really are opinionated hardheads, ............ just like almost every other person on earth. It takes effort to make someone change their mind.

You also can't know if you have been heard. If you gave someone in TFPs team food for thought it just might mean that some tester or Madmole will test AGI again and it becomes a discussion topic in some meeting and eventually something is changed and that might as well be in A20.

 
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I spawned in the Pine forest in front of a trailer. I was checking out a car there and  got attacked by a dog.
If at any poi there is a doghouse, there may spawn a dog. So if you don't know a poi, it's always a good idea to walk around first (with some distance) and look for such signs. Maybe even on the backside of the building stands written "be aware of bears"... ;)

 
zWolfer said:
yes, this is a criticism... Who is the guy who design the zombies? I think its gonna be an old conservative man because all we have are white zombies, strong males, weak and sexualized females.. There is a lot of zombies, just the screamer is "correct" and one asian and the hungry female.. I mean, wtf guys, i know its a game but let do this in a good way. thx bye
There definitely should be more black zombies and for Arizona a hispanic might be appropriate too.

But wtf, what have you been looking at? There are at least 3 weak males (including the asian, the surfer guy, the bussiness man). There are one or two strong females. Except for the party girl and maybe Trader Jen there are no sexualized females (unless you really have a few strange fetishes 😉).

Do you really think TFP will listen to you if you kill your own argument with hyperbole?

 
There definitely should be more black zombies and for Arizona a hispanic might be appropriate too.

But wtf, what have you been looking at? There are at least 3 weak males (including the asian, the surfer guy, the bussiness man). There are one or two strong females. Except for the party girl and maybe Trader Jen there are no sexualized females (unless you really have a few strange fetishes 😉).

Do you really think TFP will listen to you if you kill your own argument with hyperbole?
Are you playing the same game as i am? Its not about having 1 or 2 weak males, it is about we only have a single special female that isn't even strong: the screamer, one shoot shes dead.. Fat female is a little strong just having more health points, but shes not like the havaians, soldiers, fat police officer, spider, demolisher, feral zombie, biker, frozen lumberjack.. You see what I mean? All of the strongest zombies are male.. Still nurse zombie is more like a stripper too..

 
I've been getting in some good a19 time and wanted to ask about the biome fog in the burnt forest and wasteland. It's really atmospheric and spooky, which is great however it's not so great when you're flying over those biomes in the gyro. You can't see anything unless you fly close to the ground, but then you end up crashing into buildings and mountains that appear right in front of you out of no where. I had a look at the xml and couldn't find a way to change the density of it other than weather fog, i did find something in another xml but that was a global setting for day and night. So for now i've just added the snow biomes spectrum to those biomes.

Is there any possibility of something like biome fog having altitude, so it only goes so high above the ground? or maybe something like flying goggles that work similarly to night vision. but you can see through fog with them .
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Are you playing the same game as i am? Its not about having 1 or 2 weak males, it is about we only have a single special female that isn't even strong: the screamer, one shoot shes dead.. Fat female is a little strong just having more health points, but shes not like the havaians, soldiers, fat police officer, spider, demolisher, feral zombie, biker, frozen lumberjack.. You see what I mean? All of the strongest zombies are male.. Still nurse zombie is more like a stripper too..
That should hopefully be addressed with A20 as they are redoing a lot of the zombies and adding in more special ones.

 
That should hopefully be addressed with A20 as they are redoing a lot of the zombies and adding in more special ones.
I dont think so, cuz this occurs since A15 when a lot of zombies were added to the game, and of all of them, none was non-white or non-weak females. They added the hungry female in A15 i guess, but like i said, shes not "special" she just have more health points because she is "fat"..

 
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zWolfer said:
yes, this is a criticism... Who is the guy who design the zombies? I think its gonna be an old conservative man because all we have are white zombies, strong males, weak and sexualized females.. There is a lot of zombies, just the screamer is "correct" and one asian and the hungry female.. I mean, wtf guys, i know its a game but let do this in a good way....
Agreed, hopefully this is addressed in a future update. And not just ticking boxes either, like, properly done, and not just for diversity reasons, but for realism as well. (ie Not any of that, "Well, there's your black zombie! Why are y'all still complaining? *Proceeds to add another 50 white zombies*)

Also, not all of the zombies are sexualized. Weak, unfortunately, but not all are put in there for lewd reasons. The Screamer comes to mind as you already pointed out, as well as Big Mama, Darlene, Arlene, the lab coat zombie, probably others. (I've been sleeping on and off tonight so I'm surprised I remembered that many.)

 
Agreed, hopefully this is addressed in a future update. And not just ticking boxes either, like, properly done, and not just for diversity reasons, but for realism as well. (ie Not any of that, "Well, there's your black zombie! Why are y'all still complaining? *Proceeds to add another 50 white zombies*)

Also, not all of the zombies are sexualized. Weak, unfortunately, but not all are put in there for lewd reasons. The Screamer comes to mind as you already pointed out, as well as Big Mama, Darlene, Arlene, the lab coat zombie, probably others. (I've been sleeping on and off tonight so I'm surprised I remembered that many.)
Yeah, but just to be clear, when i said female zombies are weak and sexualized, what i mean is of all female zombies, all of them are weak, and some of them are sexualized.

 
Yeah, but just to be clear, when i said female zombies are weak and sexualized, what i mean is of all female zombies, all of them are weak, and some of them are sexualized.
Well, given the limited amount of resources left, I'd hate to say it, but if there is a hope, it's probably in their next game. (I was hoping before that at the very least all the zombies would be so severely decayed (but not to the point of the new crawler) that you couldn't recognize their ethnicity/race or even their biological s*x, therefore no debate was to be had, but it was not to be.)

 
Are you playing the same game as i am? Its not about having 1 or 2 weak males, it is about we only have a single special female that isn't even strong: the screamer, one shoot shes dead.. Fat female is a little strong just having more health points, but shes not like the havaians, soldiers, fat police officer, spider, demolisher, feral zombie, biker, frozen lumberjack.. You see what I mean? All of the strongest zombies are male.. Still nurse zombie is more like a stripper too..
Are you checking your facts? Because in the xml the fat female has meleeHandZombieStrong, i.e. she hits like the Biker and that is additional to the 300 hitpoints that is more than even feral Boe.

I don't mean to say you are wrong, I want to say you should post facts not fiction if you want to convince anyone. Because otherwise your argument can be dismissed just by pointing at your hyperbole.

The list you posted above is faulty as well. Feral zombie is not a zombie type, it is tier 2 of zombies. There is a fat female feral as well. You also list a demo which is the first of zombie tier 4 or boss zombies. EDIT: Actually there is a legendary female lab zombie which seems to be tier 4 as well. EDIT2: Ah, misuderstood you, with feral zombie you probably think of the naked barely-human zombie, it is called a Wight. Ok, might be on the list, but is it really clear whether he is male or female?

Once your list is correct it might actually make a point, not like this.

 
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Well, given the limited amount of resources left, I'd hate to say it, but if there is a hope, it's probably in their next game. (I was hoping before that at the very least all the zombies would be so severely decayed (but not to the point of the new crawler) that you couldn't recognize their ethnicity/race or even their biological s*x, therefore no debate was to be had, but it was not to be.)
Agreed.. The ambience of the game is like years post zombie apocalypse, so they should be a lot more decayed to make sense with that cuz even zombies being fictional, human bodies arent..

 
Agreed.. The ambience of the game is like years post zombie apocalypse, so they should be a lot more decayed to make sense with that cuz even zombies being fictional, human bodies arent..
Going off on a random note here, but my only criticism regarding the "state of the crawler" is that all the other standard zombies are "barely decayed" up to "reasonably decayed" so far, and then the crawler takes that to the absolute next level. I'm not seeing any missing links here. 🤷‍♀️

 
No, I think it more likely that MM got annoyed once or twice and the rest of you took that as a new rule that mods are taboo.
You think I don’t know the rules for this thread let alone the whole forum and that I just go off assumptions based upon emotional outbursts by Madmole and never have direct conversations with him where he says, “Roland, let’s try and do a better job keeping the mod talk out of the dev diary”?
 

When you say that sometimes a mod brings better balance, what you mean is that a mod sometimes makes the game feel better and more fun FOR YOU. 

But by all means keep bring up mods in this thread and see what happens...

 
zWolfer said:
yes, this is a criticism... Who is the guy who design the zombies? I think its gonna be an old conservative man because all we have are white zombies, strong males, weak and/or sexualized females.. There is a lot of zombies, just the screamer is "correct" and one asian and the hungry female.. I mean, wtf guys, i know its a game but let do this in a good way....
lord! May i bless me, the Forums and this "mans" soul's for getting mad about genders of zombies in a video game! Ahmen 

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Now i am going to eat 5 pounds of Glass!

while i do think that She could uses some more rot on her, Grey skin, More cuts, more rott, Missing hair, no noses ETC

and Yes alot of zombies that are female are not strong! and i think the game should make up for that with speed,

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF SQUID GODS. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF THE FORUMS!!!!!!!!! IM TIRED OF HEARING THAT @%$#! I HEAR THAT TRASH ENOUGH IN MY READING CLASS! AND THAT MAKES ME WANT TO EAT THE BARREL OF A BULNDERBUSS! STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT NOW!

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!

 
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[...]Still nurse zombie is more like a stripper too..
Yeah, I would really love to see the nurse make a super fast attack when she gets close, having a syringe and injecting you a random dose of whatever she was about to use when she turned into a Z.

So you could get a random debuff/buff from that...blurry vision, diarreah, weakness, infection, steroids,...everything already in the game.

Seems easy to do. Add an attack animation like spider jump, followed by the random buff/debuff if hit. And BAM...there you have your super power female Z...and some fun and thrill added to the game.

 
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