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I didn't see anything on it .. So I'm Asking .. IS IT intendent to RAIN for a day and a half with update b180 .. it started the night of the 5day and now it is the evening of the 6th day .. I do mind Rain .. but it is pouring through 3 floors in my base.

Just wondering, Have Fun and Be Safe ... the Old Gamer .. 😌

 
I didn't see anything on it .. So I'm Asking .. IS IT intendent to RAIN for a day and a half with update b180 .. it started the night of the 5day and now it is the evening of the 6th day .. I do mind Rain .. but it is pouring through 3 floors in my base.

Just wondering, Have Fun and Be Safe ... the Old Gamer .. 😌
You better start building yourself that Ark and capture two of every zombie, for it is going to rain for the next 40 days and 40 nights. 😛

 
I didn't see anything on it .. So I'm Asking .. IS IT intendent to RAIN for a day and a half with update b180 .. it started the night of the 5day and now it is the evening of the 6th day .. I do mind Rain .. but it is pouring through 3 floors in my base.

Just wondering, Have Fun and Be Safe ... the Old Gamer .. 😌
that was my day 6 last play though, so your not alone, if its supposed to be like that I don't know.

 
Sorry I was playing and recording.

Nerd poling, if you've been playing long enough you've probably figured out that having frames on your tool belt is an excellent way to evade zombies. Run up to the side of a building nerd pol up high where they can't get you and rain hell on them till they are dead. Congratulation you pretty much just beat the game using this tactic everywhere until you get enough exp, perks, and weapons to grow some balls and take them on the right way. The more realistic emmersive way. You bat way above your average using that tactic, anyone can beat the game on the hardest difficulty/speed doing that. Take a way the frame and play the game like a man. #$%^#'s! :boxing2:

Then there is the problems on multiplayer, loot rooms being short cut to and raided with minimal fighting with zeds, being able to nerd pol to the sky and 'oh$&%drops' into the fortified perimeter of someone base. If you read what I said about security and using the solar panel, pretty much a waste of money when someone can just fall out of the sky with nothing to lose and hack it apart. I can come up with more reasons and have.

When the game is definitely playable without the frame and all its power. I'm playing Permadeath on Insane Nightmare with 25% loot 64 zed horde nights and doing just fine without it. There is no reason why anyone else should need it on a lower difficulty. Play at the level you think your at without it, its way more rewarding. If it came between me dieing or nerd poling up a wall to get away I'd rather die cause I would feel like a $##^& afterwards.

And yes carrying massive amounts of everything is a problem but that has to do with the way the inventory system is setup. Honestly don't like that either but I doubt they are going to redesign that now.
So if they take away nerd poling, the people who would play in this manner are not going to find another way to play that's just as annoying to you? We all know that's not true ... they're just going to find some new way ... like run up the existing stairways and break them behind them.  Same result ... different method.

You've admitted you don't play multiplayer.  And I've not seen your builds so I can't comment on your skill or lack there of with designing a base.

But there are simple solutions to the issue you're talking about with multiplayer.

First ... you are equating all multiplayer with PvP.  Not all servers are PvP, many are PvE ... so your argument is moot for those servers since base raiding is not allowed.

Second ... using blocks to jump over someone's wall has always been an issue.  So instead of nerdpoling up they'll just build a ramp.  Still an issue.  Are you going to take away all forms of building just because you don't like something?

Third ... there are ways to prevent this ... you have a "deadzone" inside your land claim block where you do not build ... start your walls a certain number of blocks back, then even with parkour someone cannot jump into your base/over the walls.

But if people are going to find other ways around what you find so objectionable, why remove a mechanic from the game that is useful for other situations? 

You better start building yourself that Ark and capture two of every zombie, for it is going to rain for the next 40 days and 40 nights. 😛
I am NOT going to ask about your breeding program ... 

 
So if they take away nerd poling, the people who would play in this manner are not going to find another way to play that's just as annoying to you? We all know that's not true ... they're just going to find some new way ... like run up the existing stairways and break them behind them.  Same result ... different method.

You've admitted you don't play multiplayer.  And I've not seen your builds so I can't comment on your skill or lack there of with designing a base.

But there are simple solutions to the issue you're talking about with multiplayer.

First ... you are equating all multiplayer with PvP.  Not all servers are PvP, many are PvE ... so your argument is moot for those servers since base raiding is not allowed.

Second ... using blocks to jump over someone's wall has always been an issue.  So instead of nerdpoling up they'll just build a ramp.  Still an issue.  Are you going to take away all forms of building just because you don't like something?

Third ... there are ways to prevent this ... you have a "deadzone" inside your land claim block where you do not build ... start your walls a certain number of blocks back, then even with parkour someone cannot jump into your base/over the walls.

But if people are going to find other ways around what you find so objectionable, why remove a mechanic from the game that is useful for other situations? 
Are you seriously trying to say the game is unplayable without the frame after I've just spent 28 hours + doing it on the hardest diff/speed loot abundance? I won't play pvp in its current state thats what I have said and so have others. Are you trying to say the mod you play on is the only and important one? Who is thinking only about themselves now? It wouldn't be taking away all forms of building I'm doing just fine building. No but they can build/nerd pol to the sky limit make a runway run and jump with oh^*%$drops to inside of that deadzone. Even at maximum size and small base you could do it. The dead zones don't go to the sky limit. Because it isn't actually needed, its your safety blanket, I can do anything you can do without nerd poling.

Thought you withdrew from this argument after I proved you wrong 2 hrs ago.

go ahead @MechanicalLenscheck all my unedited vids on Operation Broken Bow, its proof. Ask me to do anything you think can't be done without nerd poling, go ahead.

 
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I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm simply not interested, and no, nerdpoling is not going away, and if it does, I'm going to find each one of TFP personally and I'll give them knucklerubs. I'm heading to bed with a bottle of iced tea and a podcast playing.

 
Are you seriously trying to say the game is unplayable without the frame after I've just spent 28 hours + doing it on the hardest diff/speed loot abundance? I won't play pvp in its current state thats what I have said and so have others. Are you trying to say the mod you play on is the only and important one? Who is thinking only about themselves now? It wouldn't be taking away all forms of building I'm doing just fine building. No but they can build/nerd pol to the sky limit make a runway run and jump with oh^*%$drops to inside of that deadzone. Even at maximum size and small base you could do it. The dead zones don't go to the sky limit. Because it isn't actually needed, its your safety blanket, I can do anything you can do without nerd poling.
And again, you're back to being ridiculous and antagonistic instead of responding calmly to what I laid out.  

I did not say the game was unplayable. I said that someone is going to find a way to do these things even without the frames.  And if the behavior is going to continue, what is the use of taking out a useful mechanic that most people like and enjoy?

And as for your play through ... I don't watch your channel.  I don't foresee a time when I will watch your channel.  Your play style is not of any interest to me, whatsoever.  I don't care if you play by yourself, if you play PvP, if you play PvE or if you play hide and go seek with Barney and Mr. Magoo.  Here's a clue ... I don't care about you.  You are not as important as you think you are.

I don't know what kind of building you do, I've not seen your buildings.  I know that the type of building I do would be severely hampered by not being able to nerd pole.  If you can build without, good for you, I am happy for you.  Continue building the way you like and I will continue building the way I like.

I am saying that some people will always find a way to do things the easy way, the cheap way, the non-hardcore way.

If you remove the frames then they will find something else to do that will probably hack you off just as much if not more.  Then you'll be back here trying to get whatever the new way is removed.

And I'm sure you can do everything I can do, on a harder difficulty, blindfolded, in the snow, with your hands tied behind your back.  Congratulations.  Not everyone plays that way or on that same level of difficulty. 

Not everyone does the things that make you so angry about the frames.  Everyone does not have to play the same way. 

My opinion is just as valid as your opinion.  You can propose this over and over and post antagonistic remarks all you like, until you get yourself banned.

I am allowed to state, unequivocally, that there are other ways to do things that don't require removal of the frames and crippling building for people who like to build. And I will do so every time you bring this up.

 
you don't, you play the game like you would any other game where a little hollow box doesn't hold unlimited uses and beat the game for you.


You were supposed to tell me how to nerd pole after nerd poling was removed. 

We were going to have a beautiful paradox joke, and you ruined it. 

 
Your play style is not of any interest to me, whatsoever.  I don't care if you play by yourself, if you play PvP, if you play PvE or if you play hide and go seek with Barney and Mr. Magoo.  
I'm sorry... 😂 But that part cracked me up.

I wholeheartedly agree with you though.

 
And again, you're back to being ridiculous and antagonistic instead of responding calmly to what I laid out.  

I did not say the game was unplayable. I said that someone is going to find a way to do these things even without the frames.  And if the behavior is going to continue, what is the use of taking out a useful mechanic that most people like and enjoy?

And as for your play through ... I don't watch your channel.  I don't foresee a time when I will watch your channel.  Your play style is not of any interest to me, whatsoever.  I don't care if you play by yourself, if you play PvP, if you play PvE or if you play hide and go seek with Barney and Mr. Magoo.  Here's a clue ... I don't care about you.  You are not as important as you think you are.

I don't know what kind of building you do, I've not seen your buildings.  I know that the type of building I do would be severely hampered by not being able to nerd pole.  If you can build without, good for you, I am happy for you.  Continue building the way you like and I will continue building the way I like.

I am saying that some people will always find a way to do things the easy way, the cheap way, the non-hardcore way.

If you remove the frames then they will find something else to do that will probably hack you off just as much if not more.  Then you'll be back here trying to get whatever the new way is removed.

And I'm sure you can do everything I can do, on a harder difficulty, blindfolded, in the snow, with your hands tied behind your back.  Congratulations.  Not everyone plays that way or on that same level of difficulty. 

Not everyone does the things that make you so angry about the frames.  Everyone does not have to play the same way. 

My opinion is just as valid as your opinion.  You can propose this over and over and post antagonistic remarks all you like, until you get yourself banned.

I am allowed to state, unequivocally, that there are other ways to do things that don't require removal of the frames and crippling building for people who like to build. And I will do so every time you bring this up.
Actually this was just supposed to be me explaining to two different people the issues with the frame and they actually asked. You showed up and turned it into a debate both times. Go ahead look back, I even said I didn't want to get into a debate and then you showed up.

Because you just can't resist.

 
It makes sense. Does the game know the difference between a generated block and a player-placed one? If not, would a 1-bit boolean value added to store this information have an impact on performance?
I don't think any data indicates the difference. 1 bit would work, but that means finding saved data that has a bit available, which might not exist currently, so we would need to add a byte otherwise.

 
Actually this was just supposed to be me explaining to two different people the issues with the frame and they actually asked. You showed up and turned it into a debate both times. Go ahead look back, I even said I didn't want to get into a debate and then you showed up.
Oh, I see.  So this ISN'T a forum for debate as you've said previously on multiple occasions?  I guess it's just STyK's little post-o-rama board then?  You can say anything you like, but other people cannot say they dislike your ideas?

Hate to tell you buddy, but it doesn't work like that.

 
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Chorus: Ban hammer!

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Chorus: Ban hammer!

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*Top hats go flying in the sky*

*Clears throat.* That's enough from me folks. *Walks off stage*

(Sorry, I've been meaning to pull that one off for ages. 😛)

 
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